Posts by FatFreek 2005

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Official OKM PDFs from JW.org

by Rejected in

does anyone have access to the official our kingdom ministry pdfs available only via the jw.org login page?.

thanks,.

rejected.

Official OKM PDFs from JW.org

by Rejected in

does anyone have access to the official our kingdom ministry pdfs available only via the jw.org login page?.

thanks,.

rejected.

With the exception of the 2010 issues, all prior issues are available -- as most publications since 1950 -- on the latest Watchtower Library 2009 on CD. Of course, being on their own CD, they are "official".

Downloading links get posted here and there but don't last long. If you'd like to download it yourself just make it known on this thread and someone will probably oblige you.

Len

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Memorial: Attendance Down, But Partakers Up!

by BabaYaga in

this is the impression i am getting from various threads.

of course, we won't "know" until they release the figures... oh, what am i talking about.

we won't know then, either, because we know that they discount anyone who partakes that they don't recognize or deem "worthy".

FatFreek 2005

Cheers to all.

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How many times have the Watchtower change the meaning of the generation?

by asilentone in

FatFreek 2005

AsilentOne: Thank you, FatFreek 2005.
You're welcome.

Sylvia: one more try, and they should get it right!
Great thought!

Spawn: Fatfreek 2005 is this a new publication for this year?
Ha! Yes, fresh off the Dummeez press.

Mad Sweeney: There have been five different meanings
In a sense, yes, if they want to keep the count down. They'd especially love to do that with their teaching on the resurrection of the Sodomites where they also had 6 flip-flop positions -- yes or no. I can hear it now, "Yeah, says the GB -- we've only had 2 different positions. We didn't return to our vomit 5 times -- only once."

Sorry, but they've got it all over their face and lips like some nauseated street drunk based on their atrocious history of contradictory teachings.

Len

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How many times have the Watchtower change the meaning of the generation?

by asilentone in

FatFreek 2005

Six times.

Len

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10 good reasons why celebrating birthdays should be allowed

by bluecanary in

i cannot take credit for any of the gems below but i did want to polish and organize them.

much of the information was borrowed from this thread.

if you can come up with any more, please post them.. the bible does not ban birthdays.

FatFreek 2005

Excellent, BlueCanary. So well thought out and arranged -- a definite keeper for all of us.

Len

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Med charges inflated by design to maximize Medicare payments?

by FatFreek 2005 in

i live near a local small camden, arkansas community.

not long ago a local weekly published some advice from area physician dr. nunnally, recently retired.

he was directing that advice to those of us on medicare who get these exorbitant bills -- even after medicare and our supplemental insurance gets done paying.

FatFreek 2005

I live near a local small Camden, Arkansas community. Not long ago a local weekly published some advice from area physician Dr. Nunnally, recently retired. H e was directing that advice to those of us on Medicare who get these exorbitant bills -- even after Medicare and our supplemental insurance gets done paying.

I wish I had kept that weekly because I’m now going to try to paraphrase what that he said. Dr. Nunnally explained that the way Medicare is structured is the root of the problem. The medical service (doctor or laboratory or hospital) intentionally inflates its charges not knowing exactly what Medicare will cover. When Medicare agents get the med service bill, seeing that the charge exceeds their secret table’s maximum, they proceed to pay the maximum allowed amount.

If the med service had charged some reasonable amount -- less than their table maximum, Nunnally explained, the chances are good that the Medicare agent would have paid some amount less than that reasonable amount.

But here’s the puzzler – he said that med services are fully satisfied with that maximum amount since they sign up in agreement to abide by what is allowed. If we, as a gullible public, go ahead and pay the bill over and above what Medicare and our supplemental insurance payed – then that is gravy to the med service – over and above what they actually anticipated.

The kind doctor’s explanation seems bizarre. It seems too good to be true. If what he says is factual then why hasn’t the mainstream press jumped on it as a service to us dummies who are at the mercy of the medical and insurance professions?

Len Miller

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Help Please- Gods prophets in Bible made mistakes like GB?

by AwSnap in

i have a family member coming over tomorrow to discuss this.

it was actually brought up a long time ago, but i forgot about it.

he told me 2 days ago that he found some information that he'd researched.

FatFreek 2005

I found the following at JwFacts moments ago. It may be relevant to what you're asking. [bolding is mine]

Apostles Made Mistakes

The Watchtower justifies errors through a comparison with the Apostles and the mistakes that they made.

"Like the apostles of Jesus Christ, they have at times had some wrong expectations." Reasoning from the Scriptures p.136

In a similar vein, I regularly receive emails from Witnesses that God used Moses, Abraham and David to lead his people even though they were sinners.

This addresses an issue quite different to the one at hand. This is not a question of individual Jehovah's Witnesses or individual members of the Governing Body being perfect or holding to a perfect understanding of doctrine. The issue is whether the Governing Body operates under guidance of Holy Spirit as a collective group, after prayer. Does Jehovah direct what appears in the Watchtower journals?

Rather than suggesting that Apostles made mistakes ask "What percentage of the Apostles writings in the Bible are wrong?" Zero percent. "What percentage of Watchtower statements has been wrong?" The difference being, the Apostles were directed by God, the Governing Body is not.

Len Miller

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Research project on Kingdom Halls - requesting assistance

by PharmacyStudent in

i am a student in pharmacy school who has been assigned to do some research for a multicultural awareness class.

i was assigned to gather information about jehovah's witnesses and present it to the class, and as part of the project, i need to get the information directly from a jehovah's witness.

my part of the project focuses on the place of worship for jehovah's witnesses, which i understand is called a kingdom hall.

FatFreek 2005

Sorry, Titus. I was only trying to make a point and I hope I've corrected that post to be less offensive while still making the point.

Len

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Research project on Kingdom Halls - requesting assistance

by PharmacyStudent in

i am a student in pharmacy school who has been assigned to do some research for a multicultural awareness class.

i was assigned to gather information about jehovah's witnesses and present it to the class, and as part of the project, i need to get the information directly from a jehovah's witness.

my part of the project focuses on the place of worship for jehovah's witnesses, which i understand is called a kingdom hall.

FatFreek 2005

Hi PharmacyStudent and welcome to our board,

A bit of information to go under your Basic History is this:

Certain posters here are correct when they say that "There is a big difference between JWs and ex-JWs". To say, however, that JW's are "very rare here" is hard to comprehend since the administrator publishes absolutely no statistics of such a ratio. Membership here -- yours, mine, everyone -- are all completely confidential. Well, mine is not since I sign my real name below many posts including this one.

You should also know that ones that post here, and at the same time remain as an active JW, are vulnerable to punitive action from the religion's leadership. If discovered posting here they would need to repent of such evil activity. This site is off limits to a Jehovah's Witness. If not, he would be disfellowshipped. That action would be announced from his Kingdom Hall's platform and all members will know from that moment on -- we must not have any association with him in any way. That includes family members -- children, parents, uncles, aunts -- who are also member of the Jehovah's Witnesses. It's okay, however, if a family member lives in the same household to associate with him on a limited basis -- ask a Jehovah's Witness to explain that unwritten law.

Len Miller